User talk:Lloyd Brunnel - Revision history

ShadowWolf: /* Spam ? */ new section

2011-03-12T22:38:36Z

Spam ?: new section

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	:Thanks a bunch for all the advice. Sadly my timing is actually kinda crummy since I have to go away to university soon, but I'm definitely going to get started as soon as I can! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd Brunnel]] 20:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)		:Thanks a bunch for all the advice. Sadly my timing is actually kinda crummy since I have to go away to university soon, but I'm definitely going to get started as soon as I can! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd Brunnel]] 20:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

			== Spam ? ==

			I've gotten at least one e-mail a day from one "Jonas Belford" using an e-mail address with your name in it. Those have happened to be spam - I'd suggest you do a thorough cleaning of your system. Otherwise you'll just have a zombie system that is spamming everyone in your address book. -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 22:38, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Lloyd Brunnel: I go away for a weekend and look what happens. Thanks for the advice!

2009-08-23T20:05:54Z

I go away for a weekend and look what happens. Thanks for the advice!

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	I've never managed to finish a long piece—writers block always attacks—but the way I wrote what exists of "The Hero Factor" was to just let the ideas flow. But once I reached the part where it was time to start heading for the end of things writers block attacked. So I'd suggest keeping notes and/or a clear plan so that even if writers block does hit you you can continue writing, even if those parts are utter crap. The only other hint I have is to not worry about word-count or length while writing—just keep writing and let the story end where it wants to end. Oddly enough my "only other hint" there is the most important one. If you artificially extend a story it will be visible to a chunk of your audience and if you cut off a story too early that will likely be noticed by the entirety of the audience. -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 16:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)		I've never managed to finish a long piece—writers block always attacks—but the way I wrote what exists of "The Hero Factor" was to just let the ideas flow. But once I reached the part where it was time to start heading for the end of things writers block attacked. So I'd suggest keeping notes and/or a clear plan so that even if writers block does hit you you can continue writing, even if those parts are utter crap. The only other hint I have is to not worry about word-count or length while writing—just keep writing and let the story end where it wants to end. Oddly enough my "only other hint" there is the most important one. If you artificially extend a story it will be visible to a chunk of your audience and if you cut off a story too early that will likely be noticed by the entirety of the audience. -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 16:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

			:Thanks a bunch for all the advice. Sadly my timing is actually kinda crummy since I have to go away to university soon, but I'm definitely going to get started as soon as I can! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd Brunnel]] 20:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

ShadowWolf: /* Writing Non-Short Stories */ blargh

2009-08-22T16:01:29Z

Writing Non-Short Stories: blargh

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	{{Green\|This is some of the best advice I've seen in a while, and it is entirely true of [[Rebuilding]]. I worked out a very rough outline, then just forced myself to start writing it. From there, the words just fell onto the page. Every night I'd spout out more content, and suddenly I had a fairly long story. So long that I had to break it into 2-3 parts. I've kinda fallen off of writing it at the moment, as I head out to college, but I should start back up again soon enough, after my Collab with wolfy is under wraps.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 14:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)		{{Green\|This is some of the best advice I've seen in a while, and it is entirely true of [[Rebuilding]]. I worked out a very rough outline, then just forced myself to start writing it. From there, the words just fell onto the page. Every night I'd spout out more content, and suddenly I had a fairly long story. So long that I had to break it into 2-3 parts. I've kinda fallen off of writing it at the moment, as I head out to college, but I should start back up again soon enough, after my Collab with wolfy is under wraps.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 14:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

			I've never managed to finish a long piece—writers block always attacks—but the way I wrote what exists of "The Hero Factor" was to just let the ideas flow. But once I reached the part where it was time to start heading for the end of things writers block attacked. So I'd suggest keeping notes and/or a clear plan so that even if writers block does hit you you can continue writing, even if those parts are utter crap. The only other hint I have is to not worry about word-count or length while writing—just keep writing and let the story end where it wants to end. Oddly enough my "only other hint" there is the most important one. If you artificially extend a story it will be visible to a chunk of your audience and if you cut off a story too early that will likely be noticed by the entirety of the audience. -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 16:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Concerned Reader: /* Writing Non-Short Stories */ What he said.

2009-08-22T14:44:10Z

Writing Non-Short Stories: What he said.

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	But in the end, the most important thing is to have fun. Don't push yourself. ''Relax'', and make sure you ''enjoy'' writing. —[[User:WolfyDrake95\|Drake]] 14:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)		But in the end, the most important thing is to have fun. Don't push yourself. ''Relax'', and make sure you ''enjoy'' writing. —[[User:WolfyDrake95\|Drake]] 14:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

			{{Green\|This is some of the best advice I've seen in a while, and it is entirely true of [[Rebuilding]]. I worked out a very rough outline, then just forced myself to start writing it. From there, the words just fell onto the page. Every night I'd spout out more content, and suddenly I had a fairly long story. So long that I had to break it into 2-3 parts. I've kinda fallen off of writing it at the moment, as I head out to college, but I should start back up again soon enough, after my Collab with wolfy is under wraps.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 14:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

WolfyDrake95: Just because I lurk doesn't mean I don't subscribe to TSA-talk...

2009-08-22T14:19:46Z

Just because I lurk doesn't mean I don't subscribe to TSA-talk...

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	:Thank you very much. I'll get started right away. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]		:Thank you very much. I'll get started right away. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]

			==Writing Non-Short Stories==
			Hey there, Lloyd, Wolfy here. With regards to your message on TSA-talk about writing short stories...I think I'll try to provide some advice. Instead of thinking of a specific scene, like those in short stories, try working out the befores and the afters. Describe more. Have more conversation. Add a few useful scenes here and there to display the personalities of your characters. Like what [[User:Rabbit\|Rabbit]] said, just let the story move with its flow. That always happens to me, and I end up with one huge story. The great thing about writing a long story is that it gives you time to slowly but surely develop each character, flesh out the storyline, and give the story the emotional depth that most short stories cannot get.

			The sucky thing is that because they're long, it's going to take a long time. If you have a lot of ideas, you can try working them through one by one. If it's a long story it'll take a long time to write, so be patient. Also like what Rabbit said, don't stop, because if you stop for a day, and then another, and then another...well, you end up not writing anything, and you lose interest. But if you lose interest in the one you're halfway through, don't force yourself to finish it. For me, I just start another one. The interest will return at some point.

			Like mentioned earlier, long stories give the writer an opportunity to fully and completely display the personality of his characters. Plan out cool scenes for the story. Write down the storyline somewhere so you don't forget, but don't follow your sketch completely. I spent weeks thinking about the storyline of [[User:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood\|Price in Blood]], and it slowly evolved into the storyline that I'm writing now. Be ready to change the storyline. It's not cast in iron; after all, you are the writer. Forcing yourself to write something you don't like only screws up the story more.

			If you're not sure about writing a full story by yourself, get a friend to collab with you. That way, mutual encouragement will make sure you don't lose interest and give up halfway like I did to [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing\|Last Man Standing]].

			But in the end, the most important thing is to have fun. Don't push yourself. ''Relax'', and make sure you ''enjoy'' writing. —[[User:WolfyDrake95\|Drake]] 14:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Lloyd Brunnel at 19:04, 3 July 2009

2009-07-03T19:04:18Z

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	It seemed to be an interesting idea, I'd hate to see it die before even being born. </span> --[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 16:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)		It seemed to be an interesting idea, I'd hate to see it die before even being born. </span> --[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 16:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

			:Thank you very much. I'll get started right away. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]

Concerned Reader: /* Case Brief */ new section

2009-07-03T16:51:18Z

Case Brief: new section

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	...And a late one from me, who is just about your age.--[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 14:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)		...And a late one from me, who is just about your age.--[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 14:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

			== Case Brief ==

			<span style="color: #006400;">The Google on the Internets has spoken. Here are some case brief how to's that I could find:

			[http://www.cjed.com/brief.htm http://www.cjed.com/brief.htm]

			[http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/a2850-how-to-write-a-brief-for-law-school.html http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/a2850-how-to-write-a-brief-for-law-school.html]

			[http://lawschool.about.com/od/casebriefs/ht/howtocasebriefs.htm http://lawschool.about.com/od/casebriefs/ht/howtocasebriefs.htm]

			It seemed to be an interesting idea, I'd hate to see it die before even being born. </span> --[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 16:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Concerned Reader: late happy birthday

2009-06-14T14:26:26Z

late happy birthday

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	:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)		:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
	::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]		::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]

			...And a late one from me, who is just about your age.--[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 14:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Lloyd Brunnel at 11:24, 13 June 2009

2009-06-13T11:24:11Z

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	…from an old fogey who is, oh my god, double your age… —[[User:Robotech Master\|Robotech Master]] 20:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)		…from an old fogey who is, oh my god, double your age… —[[User:Robotech Master\|Robotech Master]] 20:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
	:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)		:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
			::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]

ShadowWolf: happy b-day

2009-06-12T21:29:21Z

happy b-day

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	…from an old fogey who is, oh my god, double your age… —[[User:Robotech Master\|Robotech Master]] 20:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)		…from an old fogey who is, oh my god, double your age… —[[User:Robotech Master\|Robotech Master]] 20:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
			:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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	::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]		::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]

			...And a late one from me, who is just about your age.--[[User:Concerned Reader\|Concerned Reader]] 14:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

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	:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)		:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf\|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
			::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel\|Lloyd]]